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Author:  heartstrings [ Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:37 am ]
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Shedua511 wrote:
I think you could adapt a Ned Steinberger end pin stand to the Stick: http://www.nedsteinberger.com/instrumen ... ms.php#end
Perhaps the cello one would be the best choice. The only thing you would have to do is to carefully rout a hole under the belt-hook and put a threaded insert there. NS Design also offers a stand for cello and bass that fits the same thread (I don't know if it's the same for cello and bass, but Steinberger is a practical guy so probably it is interchangeable)..


That NS Tripod stand is actually the very thing I'm buying next. I think it's the best option for those of us who use a stand-up holder for the Stick. Instead of the cymbal stand with the wooden block holding the Stick (which works but can be slightly wobbly), I'd like to lose the belt hook completely and have a threaded insert installed. That way the NS stand's arm screws directly into the Stick and holds it in place. I first saw the stand in Guitar Center and could immediately tell that it was a stronger freestanding mount than the old cymbal stand method. I'm just too scared to drill a hole in my instrument and hammer a threaded inset in the hole. Maybe Emmett could help me out there.

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Author:  Shedua511 [ Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:02 am ]
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I can vouch for the solidity of the NS stand: I use it all the time with an NS upright bass and it has been completely reliable.
It's on the heavy side, but in a good way ;)

Author:  Yannick [ Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:52 pm ]
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Perhaps, as the NS-Stick is already a collaboration between Emmett and Ned, the Stick could have the standard NS mount installed to use with all NS features (Pins, Tripods, Straps ===> Look here) and SEI could also modify its belt-hook to be usable on this NS mount ?

Before this feature exists, I built my own Cymbal stand :
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Author:  heartstrings [ Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What one stick design change would you like to see?

This is very similar to the way the NS stand would hold the Stick, except that I want to do away with the belt hook and have the mount thread right into the Stick. This is the way it hollds the NS upright electric bass and cello. The Stick would be much closer to your body this way. I like the way you did this, by the way. -Matt

Author:  twizzle [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What one stick design change would you like to see?

I know that a lot of you guys go for stick stands when playing, but for me it's a real no-no. It just wouldn't feel right, but I can't seem to put into words why???

Author:  Shedua511 [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What one stick design change would you like to see?

Personally I like very much the way the Stick is in relationship to the body with the belt hook, it feels very ergonomic. I see the point of the stand though, and it probably would be a very easy option to implement.
Where the belt hook is attached the Stick body is about one inch thick: that should provide enough stability even with a drilled hole, I guess...

Author:  Yannick [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:21 am ]
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As all flavors are in the nature (does this mean something in English ? :oops: ) that's why I told about standard installed piece on the Stick to mount everything, and easily switch from Belt-hook to stand or pin.

Author:  heartstrings [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What one stick design change would you like to see?

twizzle wrote:
I know that a lot of you guys go for stick stands when playing, but for me it's a real no-no. It just wouldn't feel right, but I can't seem to put into words why???


I'll admit that it felt sort of strange at first, but it really helped my playing after I got used to it. In my duet, I play a lot of the high-register parts. My stand is set to make this as effortless as possible. Even with the belt hook and strap set to maximum height, it just never compared to the freedom of "weightless" playing.

The biggest reason for the stand, however, is that we play a lot of festivals and fairs where we sell CDs from our booth. When dealing with customers and handling money, all you have to do is walk away from the instrument and take care of business. This would be a huge pain if I had to unstrap the instrument every two minutes or so and start all over again. - Matt

Author:  twizzle [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What one stick design change would you like to see?

heartstrings wrote:
twizzle wrote:
I know that a lot of you guys go for stick stands when playing, but for me it's a real no-no. It just wouldn't feel right, but I can't seem to put into words why???


I'll admit that it felt sort of strange at first, but it really helped my playing after I got used to it. In my duet, I play a lot of the high-register parts. My stand is set to make this as effortless as possible. Even with the belt hook and strap set to maximum height, it just never compared to the freedom of "weightless" playing.

The biggest reason for the stand, however, is that we play a lot of festivals and fairs where we sell CDs from our booth. When dealing with customers and handling money, all you have to do is walk away from the instrument and take care of business. This would be a huge pain if I had to unstrap the instrument every two minutes or so and start all over again. - Matt



I totally get why you and others use them Matt, it's a great tool for several reasons. I think I've hit why it isn't for me though - Imagine going to see Guns n' Roses in their prime, and Slash walks up to a Les Paul on a stand and rips into Sweet Child O Mine. It just ain't Rock n Roll!

Author:  JRJ [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:49 pm ]
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Hi Yanlep, I like your stand. It looks like it works. Does the Stick fit snug and tight in the slot
or do you use small screws in the back to keep it stable? Also what tool did you use to make the slot. It seems to me that getting the slot right is the critical factor. If the Stick is loose at
all or wobbly it would be less than desireable :) .
Thanks.
:geek:
jrj

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