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Author:  AnDroiD [ Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:11 am ]
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robmartino wrote:





Ultimately it seemed like there was a lot more new and fertile ground/ I put down all the other instruments and the Stick has never failed to provide inspiration or limited what I've wanted to accomplish musically.

I've been putting in more practice time on this new instrument and it's incredibly fun and fulfilling.

I've found the Stick to be such a great foundation for making music- it can be quite satisfying approached simply, with minimal effects, or you can build complex sonic worlds with it, able to utilize all kinds of synthesis and effects technology.

I was going to put up a "thought" to the newbies "struggling" and then saw this.
My nexus was seeing (apparently) musicians (again, apparently mostly guitarists) giving up on the Stick - maybe because they find the time needed doesn't bring what they want - the proficiency - they find on their "primary" instrument.
But, again, I see a lot of bassists just enjoying the Stick for what it is - namely a tool for music.
My thing was going to be "Independence vs. Fun" and I have to say from my point of view coming from bass and never putting in the discipline needed I have MORE FUN with the Stick than anything else. Musically, sonically, compositionally, you know. More INSTANT GRATIFICATION vs. the frustration of "not playing like Emmett, Bob. Steve, Greg, Tony, Nick..."
So, yeah, you new people out there with your high expectations. If you can afford a Stick, Stick with it for the ride.
Author:  DavidWS [ Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:32 pm ]
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AnDroiD wrote:
I was going to put up a "thought" to the newbies "struggling" and then saw this....My thing was going to be "Independence vs. Fun" and I have to say from my point of view coming from bass and never putting in the discipline needed I have MORE FUN with the Stick than anything else. Musically, sonically, compositionally, you know. More INSTANT GRATIFICATION vs. the frustration of "not playing like Emmett, Bob. Steve, Greg, Tony, Nick..."
So, yeah, you new people out there with your high expectations. If you can afford a Stick, Stick with it for the ride.

I think there's a lot to be said for an on going Beginner's Mind approach to a lot of things & the Stick is no exception.

That 's maybe not so hard for me? I've only been playing guitar for a little over 2 years & am only just starting to get a 'feel' with that , so why would I expect any markedly faster progress with the Stick?

Half the fret board is in the same tuning (I use all fourths on guitar too), but that's that's about the only crossover - the normal fretting hand is now playing 5ths, and both hands are making notes in a totally different way.

Better, as you say, to take it for what it its. Lots to learn, lots to get used to, but oh those beautiful sustained vibrato sounds (even for someone as 'Beginner' as me). :D
Author:  jasonbell [ Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:42 am ]
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Back in 1994 I sold all my basses so I could learn the Stick and have no distractions. Also as I was gigging a lot with my band at the time, it was the only thing I took with me (and fourteen effects pedals, three volume pedals and a rack of Alesis Quadraverbs).....

There's a bass guitar in the house, never gets touched.
Author:  SteveS [ Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:33 am ]
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I've been playing drums for just over two years, and at this point am not in the least hesitant to "show off" by boring someone with some cover or other. I'm also starting to really play with it - just sitting and starting in on a beat, then working out different fills, or shifting the beat or...

I mention the drums as they were a much more drastic departure from what I'd done before - guitar and bass. Going from guitar to bass was almost a no-brainer. The tuning is basically the same, and it's simultaneously easier (more repetitive patterns) and harder (really rewards knowledge of and the ability to apply theory) than guitar, but mostly it was just learning some subtly different techniques. The worst part of making that transition for me was kicking myself for not having done it sooner. I found that I could have been a much more accomplished musician had I started earlier on bass. It seems to be an instrument much more to my approach to music than the guitar.

Going to Stick is more like taking up drums. A whole different way of interacting with an instrument and a different way of thinking about music.

All this to say that I think you have to give a new instrument a lot of attention for a couple of years before it begins to feel comfortable, and you can really start to relax and enjoy it. It takes patience, both with the instrument and yourself. Having some way to measure your progress is super important — just noodling doesn't demonstrably get you anywhere. You have to set small goals, achieve them, then set the next goal.
Author:  waltschwarzkopf [ Tue May 03, 2022 7:15 am ]
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I play mainly guitar, be it electric, acoustic, or bass, and I am in the process of learning the piano two develop two-hand independence. I use any of these instruments to play songs that I like. I used the stick more as an experimental instrument or to arrange new songs that I like.
Author:  zaubertuba [ Fri May 13, 2022 10:13 pm ]
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I used to play Tuba, and String Bass. Bass I had to give up when I injured my hands. Kept playing and teaching Tuba for quite awhile, but when that slowed down I ended selling my horn to buy my N/S. Was a good decision but still miss playing brass sometimes. ;)
Author:  AnDroiD [ Mon May 16, 2022 7:46 am ]
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I miss playing trombone and upright bass. Nothing like the timbre.
Author:  AnDroiD [ Tue May 17, 2022 8:58 am ]
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I have to add even though I have 5 basses - 1 short-scale, 1 elec/acoustic, 1 4-string, 8-string fretless, 1 4 fretless - I get my bass jones off my Stick. I also have 2 "Joni" guitars, which are fun for writing & modal, I get my thin-string jones off the Stick, too.
It's just more fun...
Author:  stickyfingers [ Tue May 17, 2022 10:38 am ]
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AnDroiD wrote:
I have to add even though I have 5 basses - 1 short-scale, 1 elec/acoustic, 1 4-string, 8-string fretless, 1 4 fretless - I get my bass jones off my Stick. I also have 2 "Joni" :!: :x guitars, which are fun for writing & modal, I get my thin-string jones off the Stick, too.
:!: It's just more fun...

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Author:  AnDroiD [ Wed May 18, 2022 8:03 am ]
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stickyfingers wrote:
AnDroiD wrote:
I have to add even though I have 5 basses - 1 short-scale, 1 elec/acoustic, 1 4-string, 8-string fretless, 1 4 fretless - I get my bass jones off my Stick. I also have 2 "Joni" :!: :x guitars, which are fun for writing & modal, I get my thin-string jones off the Stick, too.
:!: It's just more fun...

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