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Is thorough theory knowledge a Stick “entry requirement”?
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Author:  tomasmerlo [ Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:41 pm ]
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In my opinion a basic harmonic knowledge is essential to understand better your instrument and of course music in general, the level of it it depends on what kind of music you want to do with The Stick, if you want to play some Michael Brecker stuff then you´ll have to study quite a lot.

Don´t believe missconceptions such as "knowing a lot of harmony takes away the music" that is not true at all, knowing harmony helps you play and most important understand and use logically what you hear, it makes your life easier, all great musicians that made history were well trained in harmony, Mozart, Debussy, Coltrane, Parker, Holdsworth, Miles, Pastorius, Metheny, all played and wrote incredibly beautiful music, so, in my opinion learning harmony is a must.
Author:  OnceAgain [ Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:33 pm ]
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Not much more that I can add, except to say that this thread continues to produce great insights!

To GC's and Emmett's posts: much of what is suggested seems fairly out of the realm of my past experience ... which definitely indicates that I need to think about it further.

GC from HouTX wrote:
(my guess is because almost everyone finds out about it from listening to King Crimson, duh!)


The fact that there is a "normal" (or "easy") way that something is done almost guarantees that it wouldn't be how I would end up doing it. When I found out about the Stick, I couldn't recall actually ever hearing one before, and had no idea who Tony Levin was. (I think that I knew that King Crimson was a band.)
Author:  waltschwarzkopf [ Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:57 am ]
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No thorough theory knowledge, but "Music Theory Everyone SHOULD KNOW"
Author:  Boaz [ Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:32 am ]
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also a very simple way to understand :
Author:  glennfin [ Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:35 am ]
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GC from HouTX wrote:

I recommend:
1) Get both hands synced up so you can nail all 12 root notes quickly.
This means playing an A with both hands simultaneously over and over until you don't miss, then same thing with another note, etc. Try a song like "Bluesette" a waltz by Toots Theilsman, the progression has 11 of 12 possible root notes. Forget the melody, just play the root notes of the chords until perfect, then add the major or minor 3rds, repeat until clean, then add the 7ths. You'll notice shapes repeating. This song is just an exercise, ultimately pick songs you love.



This is the best advise in my opinion. I am constantly working on memorizing note positions and as GC mentioned, playing the same note with both hands simultaneously over and over until you don't miss. That's been an issue for me because the left and right hand are moving simultaneously but at different distances to reach the same note.
Author:  ReyStick [ Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:19 am ]
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Free Hands is theory.
So if you choose to play a Chapman Stick, then you should learn some Chapman Stick Free Hands theory.
Author:  larsyn [ Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:28 pm ]
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Been a long time, but here is my 2 cents worth.
Coming from an engineering background, I relate playing the stick like a new building. The architect makes the outside look the way he wants it, (articulation, note selection and all the other things you notice), and the engineer does the work of proving mathematically that it works, (music theory).

So I try to play things that sound good to my ear, and then try to understand how it fits into the context of music theory.
Author:  Big George Waters [ Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:04 am ]
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"So I try to play things that sound good to my ear, and then try to understand how it fits into the context of music theory."

BOOM !!

This is right on the money :) :) :)
Author:  Boaz [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:07 pm ]
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for the last couple of days i'm watching
Robert Greenberg – Understanding the Fundamentals of Music (2007)
16 videos course 45 min each + pdf book
clarify many things regarding theory
highly highly recommended !
Author:  ReyStick [ Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:49 pm ]
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I guess free hands may not necessarily be theory, but it definitely shows the theoretical possibilities of the stick, if you can grab the notes.

Parallel Galaxy or the offset modal system, may be more theory, than the discipline of fingers on strings. The offset modal system is a short but complicated, idea, which i still do not grasp, but i am working on.
Basically i think it has a lot to do with the way we create music with the instrument, and the endless possibilities therein.
I have perused the offset modal system a few times, someday maybe i will understand it. This is a lesson I like to refer to from time to time. Genius.
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