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 Egyptian Dance - C. Saint-Saens 
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I believe that an important step on the path to hand independance is a deep understanding and catalogue of how both hands interact with eachother rhythmically. One of the simplest ways to start building this understanding is to use one hand as a "metronome," linking it to a steady pulse while the other hand maneuvers around it. This simple transcription of the Egyptian Dance by Saint-Saens does exactly that, allowing the left hand to operate as a quarter note metronome, going as far as to give one finger the strong beats of the bar and another finger the weaker beats, all the while the right hand plays a melody that moves in relation to the left hand. As always, tabs and a score are available at http://www.patreon.com/jgoldbergmusic. Enjoy!


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I like it! This song looks like it is within my skill level. Another one for me to practice.


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Thanks Josh , really interesting point about holding steady time on one hand whilst the other does its thing. I was at first surprised I guess at how difficult this can be. It's something I spend a little time on. The thing I just posted for example was a case in point where even playing straight quarter notes on the same note against the left hand groove was not as easy as one might think. But its getting there. I find this particularly the case if there's little grace notes or percussive elements in the left hand. Thanks for your video & insights as always. :D

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As always, an insightful, engaging, and educational post

Keep it up, Josh, you inspire.


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Thanks guys, glad you enjoyed it!

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Learning to finger drum will help hugely. In finger drumming your right hand usually plays steady while left hand does something else. I’ve been using the melodics app and it’s making things like this much easier. I’ve been working on Herbie Hancock’s Chameleon playing quarters in right and the bass line in left hand. Then changing the notes in right hand, then making the notes 16 th notes. Baby steps. Great video as always Josh

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Finger drum app? I'm interested, would you mind expanding a bit? I've been thinking about trying to pursue (very basic) tabla repertoire for a similar outcome.

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This is really cool Josh. It is something we sometimes see in Greg’s music, to an incredible musical result. As well as in Emmett’s left hand movement, going across tonic, 5th, octave making the whole bass fly and groove. Really amazing work sharing this one Josh: most important musical tool to keep close by in IMHO! :)


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The_Afro_Circus wrote:
Finger drum app? I'm interested, would you mind expanding a bit? I've been thinking about trying to pursue (very basic) tabla repertoire for a similar outcome.


I subscribed to Melodics. It’s an app or really a series of lessons graded from grade 1 to20. Teaching you how to play drum pads like maschine or any drum pad. I use the irig pads. But could use my roli block. You can use your iPad if you didn’t have the others. Lessons include rudiments like paradiddles and playing beats of all sorts. I’m at about the grade 8 level. These are challenging to say the least but very satisfying and addictive. Kinda like playing guitar hero but you end up knowing how to play a real instrument You can try the app out free for a month I think. The app also allows you to play keyboard or electronic drums as well. It’s an investment but I’ve been using it daily and find my independence much improved. The piece you’ve demonstrated is similar in nature to drumming where the high hats are playing steady 8th or 16 th notes and your other hand is playing off that beat. Check out the free version. I think you get 5 minutes a day to play. I have no regrets about getting the year membership. The side benefit for me is that I want to learn to finger drum anyway because it’s easier to create the drum groove in your head than spend hours trying to find it in loop libraries and never quite being satisfied.

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Very interesting, thanks for the heads up. I'll look into it!

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