Mixers with nice Pre-Amps/Busking rig.?
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Radkon
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Mixers with nice Pre-Amps/Busking rig.?
Hey.
Im still undecided on my Stick rig, in as far as getting a nice pre amp sitch under $300. Good luck with that you might say, ha.
I 've been looking at Mackie 402VLZ3, with the understanding that the pre amps are very good. Can anyone tell me what else is comparable or better, without considering the Step-About and other great options we have, that are in the higher pro range.
Second thing is the impedance requirements for a Stick rig. Do I need 1Mohms coming out of a mixer to create the right signal quality?
Cheers.
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Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:42 pm |
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EricTheGray
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Joined: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:02 pm Posts: 1851 Location: Monona, WI, USA
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Re: Mixers with nice Pre-Amps/Busking rig.?
The Stickup and the PASV-4 are very sensitive to input impedance. I would say that 1 MOhm is minimal. The StepABout has 2.2 and my homemade preamps have adjustable impedance from 1 to 10. The cheapest way to have good sound is still the famous Tillman circuit. Here's a link for it: http://www.till.com/articles/GuitarPreamp/The page talks about preamps and input impedance. That's the circuit I used for my first homemade Stick pre. Here's a link for that: http://dovetailcomputing.com/music/2007/12/24/diy-stick-preamp/It has 3 MOhm input impedance and sounds great. It is really easy to build and is very cheap. After I showed mine to Japhlet B. A., he made several for people a while ago and they are known as the "little black box". If you are handy with a soldering iron, it's a nice build that sounds great. I think I had $20-$30 USD in it total. That Mackie mixer you mentioned has this feature: 2 selectable Instrument inputs – no DI box neededIf you could find out what the input impedance is on those and it's over 1 MOhm, then that might be a great little Stick mixer. It's probably fine and I'm going to try to find one to try. It's also pretty cheap at $99 USD. If you get one, let us know how it works. -Eric
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Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:33 pm |
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adde65
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Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:10 pm Posts: 990 Location: Adelaide, South Australia
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Re: Mixers with nice Pre-Amps/Busking rig.?
Konrad - I've had one of these for a few months: http://www.sfxsound.co.uk/mainpage.asp?page=sp2Really nice little unit to consider for solo Stick setup. Cheers, Andy
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Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:35 pm |
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mad_monk
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Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:50 pm Posts: 421 Location: Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: Mixers with nice Pre-Amps/Busking rig.?
Andy,
What is the battery life with that one?
Thanks, Mad Monk.
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Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:21 am |
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adde65
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Re: Mixers with nice Pre-Amps/Busking rig.?
It's actually designed as a mains-only preamp (Boss style adapter), but Max can supply a small 9V battery holder, or one that holds multiple batteries.
I mainly use it in my home studio, so I'm not entirely sure about the battery life, but current draw seems fairly low.
Cheers, Andy
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Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:53 am |
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Radkon
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Re: Mixers with nice Pre-Amps/Busking rig.?
Thanks guys, those units look pretty tidy. I think the Mackie only had 600khoms. Cheers
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Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:55 am |
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Radkon
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Re: Mixers with nice Pre-Amps/Busking rig.?
With the SP2 stereo channel 1 &2 out, can you seperate the melody and bass sides of the Stick?
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Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:18 am |
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grozoeil
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Re: Mixers with nice Pre-Amps/Busking rig.?
Yes. I have one too, and it's now my main preamp. It's very nice to fit into any gig bag. You have a mono output that sums both sides of the Stick and a stereo output in which you can plug a stereo cable splitting into two mono jacks. I didn't know that Max could provide a battery holder though.
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Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:47 am |
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adde65
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Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:10 pm Posts: 990 Location: Adelaide, South Australia
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Re: Mixers with nice Pre-Amps/Busking rig.?
BTW you can use both the stereo and summed mono out at the same time, which is pretty handy.
Cheers, Andy
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Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:05 am |
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Radkon
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Re: Mixers with nice Pre-Amps/Busking rig.?
Well..... I just ordered an SP2.
It's gonna be fab, what a sweet little piece of work.
Thanks for the tip guys. So my rig starts out as simple and powerful. SP2 & RCF 12"/tweeter combo. I'll buy another 12" RCF down the track to get a full stereo spread.
Ciao for now.
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Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:41 am |
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