Portable recording studio for Stick.
Author |
Message |
WerkSpace
Elite Contributor
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:19 pm Posts: 1742 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
|
Portable recording studio for Stick.
Has anyone tried to use a tablet as a minimalist portable recording studio? I bought a Samsung Tablet S7+ to test this concept. I purchased Steinberg's Cubasis 3 DAW & Studio. https://download.steinberg.net/download ... Manual.pdfThe Zoom H4N is my portable audio interface for Cubasis on Android. Although, it's nowhere near the quality of the Helix Floor, it works.
_________________ #404 Stick - (1978) Angico hard wood. #6460 Railboard - Black with glow inlays.
|
Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:09 pm |
|
|
Stickmata
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:16 am Posts: 17 Location: Germany
|
Re: Portable recording studio for Stick.
I am using an iPad with Auria DAW. As interface I plug in an iConnectivity Audio4 via lightning cable. Really nice and handy setup. The Audio4 has really nice routing options. Using the app AudioBus several effects can be used and a midi foot switch can be plugged into the Audio4 for controlling the effects. Edit: concerning the routing options: the signal can be sent through an effect app on the tablet to a Mac or PC with a DAW. So the tablet becomes an effect device… really cool
_________________ ———————————————————————- 10 String Railboard (#6434 from 2015) with Villex R-Block Amp for Melody: Fender Mustag GTX50 Amp for Bass: Fender Rumble Studio 40
|
Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:05 pm |
|
|
WerkSpace
Elite Contributor
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:19 pm Posts: 1742 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
|
Re: Portable recording studio for Stick.
The Zoom H4N can be used on it's own as a pocket amplifier with some effects. My favorite is No:40 Spring. It's very effective as a portable practice amp and recorder. My Studio setup is the Helix Floor directly into the back of a Roland JC-120 amp, bypassing the JC-120 pre-amps. There's virtually no floor noise unless the Helix generates them in one of the amp models. Stickmata wrote: I am using an iPad with Auria DAW. As interface I plug in an iConnectivity Audio4 via lightning cable. Really nice and handy setup. The Audio4 has really nice routing options. Using the app AudioBus several effects can be used and a midi foot switch can be plugged into the Audio4 for controlling the effects. Edit: concerning the routing options: the signal can be sent through an effect app on the tablet to a Mac or PC with a DAW. So the tablet becomes an effect device… really cool
_________________ #404 Stick - (1978) Angico hard wood. #6460 Railboard - Black with glow inlays.
|
Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:52 pm |
|
|
WerkSpace
Elite Contributor
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:19 pm Posts: 1742 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
|
Re: Portable recording studio for Stick.
I discovered that the Zoom H4N does not require batteries when connected to the tablet. It powers up automatically when the USB cable connects to it. Also, the H4N onboard effects are only available in 44.1 kHz I'm currently trying to solve an audio recording dropout issue with the Steinberg Cubasis DAW. Cubasis appears to be stuck in 48 kHz. If I set my H4N to 48 kHz, I cannot use the H4N onboard 'Spring Reverb' effect that I like. Some internet research claims that it's a setting in the tablet, not Cubasis. I will have to research this further. As a side note, the H4N makes for a great pocket amp and recorder. I've currently got the line out plugged into my home stereo with 15" bass drivers. I must admit that this sounds pretty good for such a minimalist setup. I bought a small diesel Sprinter 'camper van' last fall for $3800 CAD. I can envision plugging the portable H4N and Stick into the camper's stereo system.
_________________ #404 Stick - (1978) Angico hard wood. #6460 Railboard - Black with glow inlays.
|
Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:40 pm |
|
|
Stickmata
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:16 am Posts: 17 Location: Germany
|
Re: Portable recording studio for Stick.
WerkSpace wrote: I bought a small diesel Sprinter 'camper van' last fall for $3800 CAD. I can envision plugging the portable H4N and Stick into the camper's stereo system. This sounds very cool! Congrats for this solution! I have 2 battery amps. The Spark mini which is really handy and the Roland BA 330, which is more a PA. My wife and me use these for jams at the beach and street music. When my RB arrives next week I will give them a try. I am womdering if Spark mini will handle the low frequencies of the stick… it may be interesting to use the Spark mini as effect device and to plug it into the Roland. We will see … The H4n looks awsome for ontheroad-recording! I wiill check my music store… thanks for the clue
_________________ ———————————————————————- 10 String Railboard (#6434 from 2015) with Villex R-Block Amp for Melody: Fender Mustag GTX50 Amp for Bass: Fender Rumble Studio 40
|
Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:18 pm |
|
|
DavidWS
Multiple Donor
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:54 am Posts: 1097 Location: North West Scotland
|
Re: Portable recording studio for Stick.
WerkSpace wrote: As a side note, the H4N makes for a great pocket amp and recorder. I sometimes use my H4n plus a set of headphones to allow me to practice away from my 'music room'. I'd not tried using the built in effects. Maybe I'll give that a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
_________________ David More Stickists than you can shake a Stick™ at? (links list) Bamboo Grand 12 2024 #7472 Stickup Low Xtnd Classic Melody (Outer 5ths) Bamboo Grand 12 2009 #5826 PASV4 Low Xtnd Classic Melody (Outer 5ths) Graphite 10 2009 #5862 PASV4 Classic
|
Sat Sep 03, 2022 12:49 am |
|
|
WerkSpace
Elite Contributor
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:19 pm Posts: 1742 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
|
Re: Portable recording studio for Stick.
Page 146 - No: 40 - Spring Reverb. It sounds good on the H4N. https://www.zoom.co.jp/sites/default/fi ... 4nSP_0.pdfSet the H4N input gain down to 25 to remove any floor noise. Use only good quality cables between the H4N and Stick. I have one set of cables that are terrible, so I don't use them. DavidWS wrote: WerkSpace wrote: As a side note, the H4N makes for a great pocket amp and recorder. I sometimes use my H4n plus a set of headphones to allow me to practice away from my 'music room'. I'd not tried using the built in effects. Maybe I'll give that a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
_________________ #404 Stick - (1978) Angico hard wood. #6460 Railboard - Black with glow inlays.
|
Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:58 am |
|
|
WerkSpace
Elite Contributor
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:19 pm Posts: 1742 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
|
Re: Portable recording studio for Stick.
As seen in this video, 44.1 kHz is available in Cubasis 3, but on my Samsung Galaxy Tab S7+ that's not an option. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DdRh4S ... leMusicProSo far, I'm stuck with 48 kHz as the only option. I have to figure out if it's possible to change the audio sample rate on the tablet in order to get Cubasis to make 44.1 kHz an option. WerkSpace wrote: I'm currently trying to solve an audio recording dropout issue with the Steinberg Cubasis DAW. Cubasis appears to be stuck in 48 kHz. If I set my H4N to 48 kHz, I cannot use the H4N onboard 'Spring Reverb' effect that I like. Some internet research claims that it's a setting in the tablet, not Cubasis. I will have to research this further.
_________________ #404 Stick - (1978) Angico hard wood. #6460 Railboard - Black with glow inlays.
|
Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:13 am |
|
|
DavidWS
Multiple Donor
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:54 am Posts: 1097 Location: North West Scotland
|
Re: Portable recording studio for Stick.
WerkSpace wrote: Page 146 - No: 40 - Spring Reverb. It sounds good on the H4N. Thank you.
_________________ David More Stickists than you can shake a Stick™ at? (links list) Bamboo Grand 12 2024 #7472 Stickup Low Xtnd Classic Melody (Outer 5ths) Bamboo Grand 12 2009 #5826 PASV4 Low Xtnd Classic Melody (Outer 5ths) Graphite 10 2009 #5862 PASV4 Classic
|
Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:08 am |
|
|
WerkSpace
Elite Contributor
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:19 pm Posts: 1742 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
|
Re: Portable recording studio for Stick.
The problem with the Samsung Galaxy Tab S7+ is the USB driver is fixed to 48 kHz. The reason that I chose the Tab S7+ was the amazing 120hz AMOLED display. These are the best displays available on any tablet. My temporary solution to the 44.1 kHz problem was to purchase another Digital Audio Workstation called Audio Evolution Mobile Studio which has a proprietary USB driver that bypasses the tablet's driver and talks directly to the internal DAC. I tested this system and it works Ok. https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... n_CA&gl=USI can now play my Stick while plugged into the H4N as an audio interface to my new tablet DAW at 44.1 kHz while enjoying my favorite internal 'Spring Reverb' effect that only works in 44.1 kHz mode. The only catch with this setup was that even though I purchased the full version, they limited me to 45 seconds of recording unless I purchased their USB driver as an additional add-on. I think that it was $12 CAD for the app and $7 CAD for the USB driver. The playback quality of the new DAW is not as good as Cubasis. I'd still like to find a USB driver solution for the Cubasis DAW. WerkSpace wrote: As seen in this video, 44.1 kHz is available in Cubasis 3, but on my Samsung Galaxy Tab S7+ that's not an option. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DdRh4S ... leMusicProSo far, I'm stuck with 48 kHz as the only option. I have to figure out if it's possible to change the audio sample rate on the tablet in order to get Cubasis to make 44.1 kHz an option. WerkSpace wrote: I'm currently trying to solve an audio recording dropout issue with the Steinberg Cubasis DAW. Cubasis appears to be stuck in 48 kHz. If I set my H4N to 48 kHz, I cannot use the H4N onboard 'Spring Reverb' effect that I like. Some internet research claims that it's a setting in the tablet, not Cubasis. I will have to research this further.
_________________ #404 Stick - (1978) Angico hard wood. #6460 Railboard - Black with glow inlays.
|
Sat Sep 03, 2022 12:19 pm |
|
|
|