Agreed!


Mad Monk.

Green Sticker here.
The great tuning question. When i first learned to play guitar, it was tuned a440 standard. i later moved to open D tuning, and played both for a while as i was finding it easier to tune quickly, and use a slide. I only played with a pick for maybe 6 months. I tried to learn classical fingerstyle right away and tried to read pima. I also worked through Al Dimeola Bob Aslanan "a guide to chords scales and arpeggios", which i need to work on more as it is very useful to Stick methods, or any other stringed instrument. I believe tuning should be fluid, you should know how to play in any tuning if you are a good Stick player, you should be able to find the sweet spots, and know the way of the Stick.
If you are trying to read piano music, and play it through the stick, the fifths may make it more difficult, i can see that. I think classical piano music was not written for a Stick, it was written for piano, and the writer knew how to play and play well, if not, he could express his visualization. I understand that there are many things to be learned from the greats, and they should be learned, concept and theory. I do not know if Emmett was thinking about ways piano music would be interpreted through his instrument when he created it. Never the less his web site does say any tuning you desire. I hear tabula rasa or something like that, clean slate. I have since experimented with 4 different tunings on the Stick, and like them all. The more I learn about one the more I know about the other, the more i know how to play.
Make of it what you will. tune it any way you want, as long as you keep playing it.

RoknRol

Again, stickists, please stay off of the fourths threads with your comments unless you have something intelligent to say.

Mad Monk.

Wow! That was rude


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Probably going to get more perceived noise on the thread by policing it that just leaving it be. [emoji1782] I didn’t think it was that terrible personally.


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Of course it was rude!

Mad Monk.

"Please only agree with me or don't say anything" lol

smh at grown-ass men being this catty on the internet over the tuning of an instrument

I really like ReyStick's comment. "Do what works for you" makes a lot of sense to me, especially on an instrument with so much as-yet unexplored territory.

Not that anyone asked but my 2 cents are that 5ths tuning is fine for reading. I find a cello-based fingering method works best for reading linear lines in 5ths, and if you're trying to get some of those closed voice piano chords, crossing over the center line or using uncrossed playing at the mid and low end of the treble side will get you the same results.

Can't argue with Bob Culbertson's myriad of amazing classical piano pieces, including the mighty Toccata and Fugue by Bach. Not to mention all of the other excellent classical arrangements by many Stick players that are just a YouTube search away.

But I'm not knocking 4ths either. Works for bass, works for guitar (except that 3rd but more and more people are retuning the B to a C and the high E to an F), works for closed voices and linear lines just fine. Clearly there's something there. Do what works for you, but keeping that gate all day has to be tiring after a while.

I was not trying to be rude. I am sorry if my musical knowledge is not up to par with your greatness. I thought i would just try to get involved in the conversation, and express my naievte. I as a stickist, will stay off your precious mirrored fourths page, sorry to offend you with my stupidity. Good luck in your journey.

RoknRol

Your perspective is valued.

Again, for me (and this is just me) mirrored 4ths has really helped me be able to play this awesome instrument. It’s not “just about piano music and sight reading” it’s really made this instrument playable for me, whereas 5ths was a lot of extra work that felt like it was going nowhere - again, for me. If 5ths work for you, that is awesome - It just isn’t the case for me, and believe me I tried. A lot of things opened up for me in 4ths, and it’s made my practice and playing experience much more enjoyable. And that’s what this whole music thing is about, right?

I get that y’all love your 5ths tuning, but can’t y’all just let those of us who tune in 4ths just have it?
(Ps I really like what Bob, Emmett and Greg do too, I just don’t have that level of talent to do that sort of thing in bass 5ths)

Peace.