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Post How are you learning your scales?
I am attempting to learn my scales: major, minor, pentonic, and have several learning material resources, i.e, Stickology, Stick Book, Bob C's 2 videos.
Without getting into a heated argument about which method book is better, I wanted to know how others learned their scales.

Anyone have success stories they'd like to share?


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Post Re: How are you learning your scales?
Stickology is my first go to.. then stick book. What was most helpful to me were the lessons I took with Steve A. He has so much good stuff to offer and explains it really well. I also like the Chord Conpendium that Greg put out not long ago for chords.


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Post Re: How are you learning your scales?
I’ve been practicing chromatic scale, both bands starting on B - fret 7 - bass side , 12 melody.
This has been going for nearly 12 years, at 40 BPM.
The impact on my tone and fluently has been significant.

I only recently got around to playing all major keys. Natural minor scale in a few keys, is also a staple. Apart from that I’m slowly getting into modes of minor scales.

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Post Re: How are you learning your scales?
Personally, Josh Goldberg's youtube channel and website have been a god-send.
Check out this page: https://www.taptheory.net/thetheory
and scroll on down to the bottom for bass + melody side scales.

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Post Re: How are you learning your scales?
That's a great web site! I agree, Josh's educational stuff is top notch. Bob Culbertson's videos go over the same scale information.


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Post Re: How are you learning your scales?
hallucinoglyph wrote:
Personally, Josh Goldberg's youtube channel and website have been a god-send.
Check out this page: https://www.taptheory.net/thetheory
and scroll on down to the bottom for bass + melody side scales.

In the bass side rudiments on that page, what does Josh mean by L1 L2 R1 R2? Any ideas?

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Post Re: How are you learning your scales?
These are two handed bass scales. L denotes left hand, R is the right hand. The numbers are the fingers. For example, R1 is the index (pointer) finger of the right hand. You play these scales while channeling Tony Levin’s two handed bass riffs


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Post Re: How are you learning your scales?
I personally hate grid diagrams and geometry when it comes to notes it's okay to jot it down or reference that sort of thing if you're in the early stages of learning a new fingering or something, but I prefer to see that sort of thing dovetail with hearing the sounds and actual notation (or at least tablature) as well as an intervallic formula/structure...

I mean, I see a bunch of guitar guys with the "Guitar Grimoire" (Thickest damn book you've ever seen) and they set about learning all of their major scale fingerings, (let's say 7 fingerings by 12 keys, well that's 84 fingerings) then they set about learning all of their dorian fingerings (Another 7 fingerings by 12 keys, another 84 fingerings taking us to 168 fingerings...) And of course, they keep on going with Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian and Locrian fingerings for a grand total of 588 fingerings; probably how a book like the guitar grimoire fills up pages and adds content...
It's almost painful watching people struggle with the modes never realizing that it's just a pool of notes based on a key signature played over one of the OTHER chords diatonic to the key that you are in. The sad thing is that I have seen people literally practice their scales like this "All of the C Ionian fingerings, All of D Dorian Fingerings, All of E Phrygian Fingerings, etc etc" when it's literally all the same geometry. Tons of redundancy. But hey, if that's a way that works for you, go for it by all means.

Honestly, every one of those fingerings is a restructuring of a major scale; lol Learn your major scale fingerings and you will have all of your modal fingerings down. If you understand diatonic harmony you will likely never need a scale or a chord diagram compendium for constant reference;

Maybe for the Stick, try and learn intervals first, then understand what interval stacks make chords and scales, then learn key signatures, and all the while make it your "manifest destiny" to know what every note is in every direction on the instrument; the better one knows the instrument the easier it is to communicate and assimilate different musical ideas...

That's just my opinion, though. :D

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Post Re: How are you learning your scales?
I learnt two major scale patterns which are helpful for determining intervals, and helps unlock chord spellings and chord progressions. Starting from a given note, it’s useful to know where the 3rds, 4th, 5th, 7ths and 9th live. On the piano I learnt how to harmonise the major scale (stacked thirds) - this is basic info to have. I learnt the pentatonic scale plus blue notes. All this was easy stuff, but it’s not learning the note names as such.

Right now my approach is to work through a song that I like, unpacking the chords and transferring their voicing to the Stick. I find this is instructive and motivating, because the song emerges under your fingers and the Stick reveals its brilliant logic. This also teaches you where the notes and chords are in the quadrants of the fretboard. Copying and unpacking is a great way to go, IMO.

I never think about learning a mountain of 288 notes... I’d rather learn chords in quadrants, in the context of songs...

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Post Re: How are you learning your scales?
The Stick is very different from guitar in this way. The uniform tuning means you are learning consistent patterns that apply to any root note.

The three-fingered approach (in both hands) means that fingerings are consistent for all diatonic and other scales. The only thing that changes is the geometry, which is highly visible on The Stick.

For the right hand I refer you to Chapter 6 of The Stick Book and the Melody Movement Lesson from Basic Free Hands Technique.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-iZNPlDWCg

For the left hand, a Facebook live stream I recorded earlier this year:

The Great Unified 3-Fingered bass strategy
https://www.facebook.com/stickist/video ... 4202098775

and accompanying pdf:
http://greghoward.com/free_hands/lesson ... rategy.pdf

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