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Gene, how about MAMI - Modern Amplified Musical Interface?
That's really what it all boils down to. It's an interface, and one which give you some of the most direct hands-to-the-tone contact you can get.

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Love that too. The Stick as an interface to new musical dimensions is a cool idea! :D

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Post Re: Is the Stick a percussion instrument?
Fingers equal piano hammers. Plus strumming is an alternate technique. As is slapping and popping. Kerchunk, claw etc. All percussively initiated.
Semantics.
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BSharp wrote:

You can't hold a note on drums (never, hardly ever, never say never, never say, "Never say never"). A drum has an attack and a decay, that's it. A drum roll might seem like sustain, but no more so than the standard mandolin tremolo technique. A snare has that backwards sound (Beatles tape running backwards), springs rebounding from the bottom and zapping to a quick release.


Seems that some Tabla techniques involve bending notes in a manner of speaking, Its what gives the instrument its unique sound. Is it as expressive as the Stick? Well, no, but I think it does fall into the realm of "never, hardly ever, never say never, never say, "Never say never"

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I bought a Roland HandSonic just so I could play with Tabla!

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Is the Stick a "percussion" instrument?

Well, I think that as a main classification (a'la Mahillon) might be doing us a disservice...or rether we are beyond the scope of the band room poster "Instruments of the Orchestra"

As Emmett points out the academic (musicologist, well technically organologist I suppose) sphere can have it's own systems of classification beyond the European orchestral tradition.

the Hornbostel-Sachs system actually starts witht eh material/mechanical configuration...aerophone (air column instruments), membraphones (vibrating membranes), Chordophones (vibrating strings), ideophones (vibrating solids..big distincation is that the ideophone isn't under tension like membraphones and chordophones), and now electrophones (electrical/electronic oscillators)


there, the motive force applied is actually a secondary parameter (concussion, percussion, scraping, ...I assume someone by now has maybe included electromagnetic excitation a'la ebow)

That rabbit hole can go relatively deep "Everyone's a silver hero, everyone's a Captain Kirk...with orders to identify, classify and clarify, scrambling in the summer sky as ninety nine red balloons go by"

The closest relative that comes to mind for me is a clavichord where metal "tangents" strike the string at, and define, the terminal node -- the difference being that the "fret" (tangent) is being moved instead of the string.

but then what happens when I fret bow or pluck or thumb pop...am I now longer playing the stick?

don't get me wrong, I think the exercise of classifying can have value as a thinking tool as long as we see it as an analytical tool we apply to reality, not reality itself


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Bottom line, if ever the Stick finds itself in an orchestra, the player will be sitting on their own, and not in any 'section' .....and quite rightly so! :-)[/quote]
"The Stick Section"...I can't wait, a whole section of Stickists playing music written specially for the Stick, written for the color it adds, including percussive, proccessed, bowed, "prepared",...oh, yeah.

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The Stick is a compulsion instrument.

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greg wrote:
The Stick is a compulsion instrument.

Best description ever! I'm gonna keep this one Greg! [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji1]


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"Stick propulsion", you can fly, and fast!

JW - "...but then what happens when I fret bow or pluck or thumb pop...am I (no) longer playing the stick?"

You're playing the strings. The Stick employs a specific method on strings, each hand perpendicularly approaching the fretboard from opposite sides. It's the main technique the instrument was designed for, but strings can do so much more.


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