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Author:  Lee Vatip [ Thu May 25, 2017 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  A common progression

Many tunes that sound. very different are actually the same in harmonic structure.
The Carlos Santana Secret Chord Progression

Simply. i minor to IV Major (or 7th)

Evil Ways
Oyo Como Va
I Wish
Holding Back The Years
Son of Mr. Green Genes
Spooky

Author:  sagehalo [ Fri May 26, 2017 10:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A common progression

You mean this guy? :?:


Author:  Alain [ Fri May 26, 2017 10:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A common progression

Lee Vatip wrote:
Many tunes that sound. very different are actually the same in harmonic structure.
The Carlos Santana Secret Chord Progression

Simply. i minor to IV Major (or 7th)


I don't want to start an inappropriate discussion but for me it's a IIm7 - V7 progression.

Author:  Lee Vatip [ Fri May 26, 2017 11:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A common progression

Correct Alain...
But since the progression sounds resolved on the iim7 that becomes the root in the Dorian mode and thus your V7 becomes IV


SA

Author:  Alain [ Fri May 26, 2017 7:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A common progression

We don't see this kind of progression (the one I want to talk about) with Carlos Santana but it's possible to put a bridge (kind of) to get a turnaround before playing again this IIm7 (Im7) - V7 (IV)...let's say it's Gm7 - C7

This short bridge could be

Am7b5 - D7(b9 or #9 or both) or
Am7b5 - Ab7b5 (or Ab13)

It was not the way Santana was thinking music...lol. He was more rock/bluesy style with a lot of pentatonic scales and very melodic...very good guitar player at the end of the day. My way to see all of this has more jazz roots.

Author:  AnDroiD [ Fri May 26, 2017 9:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A common progression

I hate having to explain a joke, but it's Lee Vatip referencing Frank Zappa making a joke about the "Carlos Santana Secret Chord Progression". Guess you had to be there...

Author:  Jayesskerr [ Sat May 27, 2017 5:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A common progression

Lol. I'm not too sure what's so secret about an unresolved iimin7- V7 One could call it an "incomplete cadence". The modal way works too, but iv7 looks a bit weird... Lots of different ways to explain/communicate music.
Anyways, what Alain posted jives...

The Zappa video is kind of funny...

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