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Lee Vatip
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A common progression
Many tunes that sound. very different are actually the same in harmonic structure. The Carlos Santana Secret Chord Progression
Simply. i minor to IV Major (or 7th)
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Thu May 25, 2017 8:27 pm |
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sagehalo
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Re: A common progression
You mean this guy?
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Fri May 26, 2017 10:32 am |
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Alain
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Re: A common progression
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Fri May 26, 2017 10:39 am |
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Lee Vatip
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Re: A common progression
Correct Alain... But since the progression sounds resolved on the iim7 that becomes the root in the Dorian mode and thus your V7 becomes IV
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Fri May 26, 2017 11:56 am |
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Alain
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Re: A common progression
We don't see this kind of progression (the one I want to talk about) with Carlos Santana but it's possible to put a bridge (kind of) to get a turnaround before playing again this IIm7 (Im7) - V7 (IV)...let's say it's Gm7 - C7
This short bridge could be
Am7b5 - D7(b9 or #9 or both) or Am7b5 - Ab7b5 (or Ab13)
It was not the way Santana was thinking music...lol. He was more rock/bluesy style with a lot of pentatonic scales and very melodic...very good guitar player at the end of the day. My way to see all of this has more jazz roots.
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Fri May 26, 2017 7:43 pm |
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AnDroiD
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Re: A common progression
I hate having to explain a joke, but it's Lee Vatip referencing Frank Zappa making a joke about the "Carlos Santana Secret Chord Progression". Guess you had to be there...
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Jayesskerr
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Re: A common progression
Lol. I'm not too sure what's so secret about an unresolved iimin7- V7 One could call it an "incomplete cadence". The modal way works too, but iv7 looks a bit weird... Lots of different ways to explain/communicate music. Anyways, what Alain posted jives...
The Zappa video is kind of funny...
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