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gpoorman wrote:
Very good video! This is actually a peeve of mine. So few people even think about working on their timing and the end result is that ... dare I say ... most players have poor to mediocre timing. This really sticks out when someone attempts to play as a solo. To me, it's something so incredibly fixable and is, at the same time, one of the world's biggest tune killers.

I've always been a big fan of the metronome. In addition to using it for timing, it's also one of the best ways to learn notated music. By using the metronome to play a tune evenly and mistake free, you're teaching your brain what it's like to play a piece properly and not slowing down for the hard parts and speeding up for the easy parts.

I've never tried the dotted eighth notes and second note triplet kinds of things though. That's very cool and I will have a go at it :-)

Another thing I like to do is to find moments to "groove" to a fixed beat at any odd time during the course of a day. For example, you're sitting at a red light with your turn indicator clicking away in your car. I'll start drumming on my legs and making up rhythms trying to find the pocket of the turn indicator.


Yep, so true. lol I do the same thing; grooves and rhythm happen in nature... Rock out!

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To me you are not ready to perform until you can play to a metronome

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Jzzb8ovn wrote:
To me you are not ready to perform until you can play to a metronome


Yep. Critical practice in my opinion.

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Jzzb8ovn wrote:
To me you are not ready to perform until you can play to a metronome

Remember the thread was about playing with metronome beats on 2 & 4. :)


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gpoorman wrote:

Another thing I like to do is to find moments to "groove" to a fixed beat at any odd time during the course of a day. For example, you're sitting at a red light with your turn indicator clicking away in your car. I'll start drumming on my legs and making up rhythms trying to find the pocket of the turn indicator.


Polyrhythms at the lights with the indicator, is there any other way? Just plain 3 over does it for me.

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So I watched the video. And then I tried grooving with the metronome on beats 2 and 4. It's hard. But it kind of clicks after a bit, and it wasn't that difficult unless I started thinking about it, like when you're jogging up a flight of stairs and you suddenly try to actually notice where each foot is going and what the back is doing and then...you trip over the step because you were thinking about it too hard. Yeah, like that. I bet it's a lot easier for the jazzers than a more 1 & 3 rock guy like myself.

And the metronome is your friend. Your Musician's Friend (someone should use that for a business idea...)

And also my most curséd enemy, damn thy too-regular eyes! But a very useful enemy, to make you a better player.

2 and 4 is interesting. I'm not convinced it's for me, but I can definitely see how it would open things up for jazz.

Meanwhile, me and my best friend, Rubato, will over here chilling, and frustrating studio engineers--who are also me--trying to sync other tracks to that free-flowing, New Age Progressive crap I have so much of that's never seen a metronome it liked. :ugeek: But I kid! (Not kidding. :oops: )

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paigan0 wrote:
So I watched the video. And then I tried grooving with the metronome on beats 2 and 4. It's hard. But it kind of clicks after a bit, and it wasn't that difficult unless I started thinking about it, like when you're jogging up a flight of stairs and you suddenly try to actually notice where each foot is going and what the back is doing and then...you trip over the step because you were thinking about it too hard. Yeah, like that. I bet it's a lot easier for the jazzers than a more 1 & 3 rock guy like myself.

And the metronome is your friend. Your Musician's Friend (someone should use that for a business idea...)

And also my most curséd enemy, damn thy too-regular eyes! But a very useful enemy, to make you a better player.

2 and 4 is interesting. I'm not convinced it's for me, but I can definitely see how it would open things up for jazz.

Meanwhile, me and my best friend, Rubato, will over here chilling, and frustrating studio engineers--who are also me--trying to sync other tracks to that free-flowing, New Age Progressive crap I have so much of that's never seen a metronome it liked. :ugeek: But I kid! (Not kidding. :oops: )


Ever notice what beats the snare drum hits on, like pretty much every song on the radio?

There are exceptions, but the snare (more often than not) hits on beats two and four. Any drummer that figures this concept out pretty much instantly learns a bazillion songs, and gains a very important reference point that gets leveraged over, and over again. Truth.

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