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Oh, good. :D

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My point is this; having the ability to assimilate music quickly (by whatever means necessary) is a huge advantage. Being able to do this frees up a lot of time to work on other equally important things... (Elephant devoured)


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Post Re: Having troubles learning this thing? Tell us...
Chordally arpeggiated LH harmony with RH themes expressed in chords and single note lines, all done live with discipline and at the same time - abandon (not afraid to make mistakes). This approach leads the way to live performance and a lot of it.

I say, insist on this kind of autonomy and play the game for the game's sake. You'll strike out but your batting average will steadily improve.

Such triadic arpeggios from deep bass on up into the chordal register are limiting but both "Ave Marias" were composed that way as well as many pop songs. Scott can always choose other LH intervals as alternative thematic accompaniment according to the song. This leads to versatility, an open ended style.


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Hey, Scott! The Greg Howard tunes are coming along nicely. I have tried all these at one time or another, along with Blues for Ayman(sp?) and I think you are representing them very well.

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mike kemp wrote:
Hey, Scott! The Greg Howard tunes are coming along nicely. I have tried all these at one time or another, along with Blues for Ayman(sp?) and I think you are representing them very well.
Mike


Not too bad for a couple of hours each, eh? Thanks for checking them out, I literally just opened the book and went after them one after another. I knew I wanted to try Sangre de Cristo for sure...

For me;
Hand Independence Problem = playing notes simultaneously with both hands. A big problem, a challenge that will always be there I suspect. My solution; play notes simultaneously with both hands with a lot of rhythmic, and harmonic variation. Simplify, simplify, simplify. If it's still too difficult, simplify again. Pay attention to my mistakes, try not to make the same ones twice. I don't really think of it as hand independence per se... I get to play notes together, or notes one after another. That sort of mindset...

By simplify, I mean down to the fucking note if I have to. Get a big chalkboard and focus on literally just that "one thing". Once it's down, move on to the next. But until it's down, worry about NOTHING else, free your mind. No facebook, no clash of clans, no pesky wives, no bills, no work.

Timeframes I clocked it out, it took me on average, probably 9 hours to learn a 16 measure tune (Del Mar, All Of Me, Smells Like Teen Spirit, Europa, Jesu Joy, Greensleeves, Scarborough Fair) Now that's JUST to be able to remember it. Un-fucking-cool. I can learn 40 new tunes in a day if I have to on guitar, and that includes tricky solos and stuff, so you can perhaps understand why I was frustrated; On Stick I have 9 hours to basically learn it, another 9-40 hours to get the execution a bit smoother, and then after 6 months of practice it's STILL super shaky and prone to error. And then you ask the dudes why, and nobody can/will give a tangible answer.

All good, I solved it. The Stick is a multitasking instrument, there is a LOT going on by default. On any thing one is working on there are a lot, I mean a LOT of things the player has to be conscious of; Pick one thing. One. Succeed at defeating that "one thing" and it will explode throughout your playing. Keep on defeating those pesky "one things" and a few months later you will have some stuff... I don't care how I look, don't care about tempo, don't care about sig series Yngwie donuts, Frank Gambale wigs, just whatever one issue I am working on... (the notes usually)

For me, that one thing is just the notes. Then once the notes are there, add the rhythm and timing. After that, tempo. After that, maybe I think about addressing articulation things. One thing at a time. One minute intervals. Listen, practice, listen, practice, identify errors, choose an error to deal with, live with the rest of it. I have a wicked ear, and a deadly practice ethic, but I needed to recognize that that might not be enough. Sight-reading as a learning tool has come in very, very handy on this instrument. And no, your Stick doesn't have to be in Mirr 4ths to sightread, that's a tuning I chose to further simplify. Tuning is almost irrelevant; Pick one, and get to work. Anyways, I get more out of 5-10 minutes than I did from 8 hours.

That thinking may be vertical or horizontal, I don't know - but really, my attitude boils down to "simplify, simplify, simplify". It works.

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BSharp wrote:
Chordally arpeggiated LH harmony with RH themes expressed in chords and single note lines, all done live with discipline and at the same time - abandon (not afraid to make mistakes). This approach leads the way to live performance and a lot of it.

I say, insist on this kind of autonomy and play the game for the game's sake. You'll strike out but your batting average will steadily improve.

Such triadic arpeggios from deep bass on up into the chordal register are limiting but both "Ave Marias" were composed that way as well as many pop songs. Scott can always choose other LH intervals as alternative thematic accompaniment according to the song. This leads to versatility, an open ended style.


Yes.

Yes, yes, yes. Good info, I'm working on it.

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Mr David Tipton has some really, really excellent points. Informative and reassuring at the same time.

Watch this, listen to David...

http://www.stickist.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=12577

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