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 Any Stick examples of tunes using passing diminished? 
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Post Any Stick examples of tunes using passing diminished?
Just curious if there's any Stick music out there with actual "passing diminished" concept going on in the harmony, not really looking for "implied" but rather "actual"... thanks dudes...

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Post Re: Any Stick examples of tunes using passing diminished?
Yes I use a C-7 Bdim7 to Bbmaj7 in this tune

https://youtu.be/b0RVZHQppjM



Also in bridge of this tune

Fmaj7 to F#Dimin7 to G min7

https://youtu.be/-1Y8uYU2OSA


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Post Re: Any Stick examples of tunes using passing diminished?
both vids. not available

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Post Re: Any Stick examples of tunes using passing diminished?
Does this count? at 1:18?



So the b5 of the diminished isn't played in the left hand chord, but it is played in the melody, yes?

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Post Re: Any Stick examples of tunes using passing diminished?
greg wrote:
Does this count? at 1:18?



So the b5 of the diminished isn't played in the left hand chord, but it is played in the melody, yes?



:D Perhaps i should better define what I'm talking about... Isn't passing diminished when one inserts a diminished 7th in between "normal" chord changes a halfstep above or below the root of the "normal" chord changes? As an arrangement tool, part of substitution concepts? Embellishment ideas and stuff...

Like so...

All Of Me

Cmaj6 E7 A7 Dmin7 E7 Amin7 D7 Dmin7 G7

becomes

Cmaj6 (C#dim) E7 (Fdim) A7(A#dim) Dmin7 (D#dim) E7 (Fdim) Amin7 (A#dim) D7 (D#dim) Dmin7 G7

As an example, I played the first 16 measures of "All Of Me" in this way real quick on guitar (No "implied changes" the changes are their in their entirety...) Very rough, and most often I think passing diminished happens on the last beat of the chord's measure adding a bit of tension to further resolve to the "home chord"...

https://soundcloud.com/jayesskerr/all-of-me-norm-vs-passing-diminished


Sangre Cristo, what a great tune (I should learn that one, eh? :D) It DOES have that F# dim chord in it, (The triad version of the vii chord which is an implied F#min7b5 chord, NOT the same function/sound as diminished, or diminished 7th) and perhaps the inclusion of the odd tritone here and there makes for a diminished "moment" but I'm thinking that actual "passing diminished" applied to Sangre Cristo might look more like so (for the sake of discussion);

Em Fdim7 Dmaj D#dim7

Em Fdim7 Am7 A#dim7 F#dim Gdim7 B7 Bdim7 etc etc

John Scofield, Frank Gambale and Mike Stern do this all the time... :D

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Post Re: Any Stick examples of tunes using passing diminished?
Brett Bottomley wrote:
Yes I use a C-7 Bdim7 to Bbmaj7 in this tune

https://youtu.be/b0RVZHQppjM



Also in bridge of this tune

Fmaj7 to F#Dimin7 to G min7

https://youtu.be/-1Y8uYU2OSA


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Ahhhhh I want to see these, but they weren't available... Can you hook a fella up, Brett? :D

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Post Re: Any Stick examples of tunes using passing diminished?
Hmm I wonder why I can see them?


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Post Re: Any Stick examples of tunes using passing diminished?
maybe they are set as private
you should set them to public

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Post Re: Any Stick examples of tunes using passing diminished?
Here ya go. 2nd measure of the head. Leo's great. For those who haven't checked him out. He has a huge repertoire and gigs a lot.



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